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※ 引述《taylorliao (Page)》之銘言: : : The Greatest Story Ever Trolled : 史上最引戰的故事 - Joel Embiid : Joel Embiid has turned the Sixers' famed process into performance art, and : everyone is feeling merry and bright -- for now. : 來看看 Joel Embiid 是怎麼將費城76人行之有年的坦克文化,轉變成一場表演藝術,而他 : 又是怎麼讓大家的心中都變成他暖暖的文字,洋溢著滿滿的幸福......至少現在是啦。 : by Ramona Shelburne : 12/12/17 這篇訪談的作者Ramona Shelburne 這兩天因此上了不少廣播節目 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8krJO9HZ5U

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THE HOOP COLLECTIVE "Greatest Story Ever Trolled"(2017/12/14) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esPcuNkOxYE

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THE LOWE POST Kevin Pelton & Ramona Shelburne(2017/12/13) 以下就原文相對應的部分 放上她的回應 & 補充的地方 另外盡量補上在哪個廣播中的哪個時間 不屬於原本這篇文章的 我就放到最後了  ★★★ : We've been in a car together for about 30 minutes, driving from San Francisco : to Sacramento, where the 76ers' irrepressible young star will meet his : teammates for a game the next night. Already Embiid has made predictions about : Game of Thrones, this year's NBA Finals-- "[The Warriors] will be ready to go : seven games with the Sixers in June!"-- and how his own ride on the fame cycle : might turn. : 當時我們一起開車從舊金山開往沙加緬度,這30幾分鐘左右的路程上,而身旁這位精力旺盛 : 的年輕明星,將要前往去跟明天晚上要比賽的隊友們會合。在路上Embiid已經劇透權力遊戲 : 的結局、今年球季的NBA總冠軍--Embiid:「勇士將會跟我們76人在明年6月廝殺到第七場!」 : 、還有他自己的人氣曲線,將有可能會轉向。 (27'11) THE HOOP COLLECTIVE 作者也十分訝異 Embiid在美國待了7年而已 就知道所謂的「人氣曲線」(Fame Cycle) : "People love you at the beginning," Embiid explains. "But at some point they're : gonna start hating you. LeBron. Russell Westbrook. All the superstars. Even : Steph. He's so likable. He does nothing wrong, but some people still hate him. : It just comes with the nature of it. I've seen it. : Embiid解釋:「大家剛開始都會很喜歡你,但到了某個階段後,他們就會開始討厭你。你看 : 像 LeBron、Russell Westbrook、還有其他的大球星,即便像是 Stephen Curry 他這麼惹 : 人愛,他也沒做錯什麼事,但還是有些人會討厭他。這就是很自然的現象,我已經見識過了 : 。」 : "I feel like I'm about to go through it. I think it's coming. People always : want something new." : Embiid:「我想我也將會經歷那些,我也覺得差不多了吧,喜新厭舊是人之常情。」  ★★★ : Embiid loves it. When Sixers fans chant it as he shoots free throws, he'll wave : his arms, imploring them to chant louder. : Embiid超愛這種親民的作風,當76人球迷在他罰球時叫囂,他會揮動他的雙臂,鼓勵他們 : 在大聲點聽不見。 : "It's like Happy Gilmore out there," former teammate Nik Stauskas says. "Most : people like the place to be quiet when they're shooting. Jo's like, 'Come on, : man, make some noise!'" : 前隊友 Nik Stauskas:「這超像 Happy Bilmore《高爾夫球也瘋狂》的電影片段,大部分的 : 人都喜歡在他們罰球時現場越安靜越好,但Jo剛好相反,他會說『喔拜託,大聲點我聽不見 : !』」 : And if they don't, he's not happy about it. : 然而如果球迷不鳥他,他會不高興。 : "Oh, he eggs the crowd on," Sixers swingman Robert Covington says. "He loves : it." : Robert Covington:「他根本就在慫恿群眾這樣做,他超愛這樣。」 (24'40)THE HOOP COLLECTIVE 作者的觀察,感受不到情緒的話 (沒人對他咆哮、沒人為他喝采、和他一樣融入比賽) Embiid不覺得自己活著  ★★★ : So he calls himself The Process, over and over, mischievously defusing its bite : with humor and hashtags but still cutting right up close to the quick. : 他一而再再而三的稱自己為 The Process,很調皮的用幽默+很多Hashtags在那玩弄大家的 : 底線,但弄一弄後又很快地停手 (33:40)THE HOOP COLLECTIVE 主持人分析了Embiid的社群媒體策略 — 你先自嘲的話,別人很難拿你笑自己的點笑你 (They can't laugh at you, if you laugh at you first) : "I'm not doing it to hurt anybody's feelings or create a situation," Embiid : says. "I just think it's funny." : Embiid:「我做這些不是為了傷害任何人的感受,或是惹事生非,我單純覺得很好玩。」 : This is the essence of Embiid. Always flexing. Kidding but not kidding. : Trolling on social media, trash-talking on the court, playfully tweaking people : to see what they'll do about it. But Embiid is pushing himself as much as he's : pushing buttons. : 這就是Embiid的本質。收放自如,好笑又很靠北。在社群媒體上狂酸,在球場上噴垃圾話, : 調皮地弄人想看看他們的反應。但其實Embiid也是有很努力地訓練自己的球技,就像訓練自 : 己的嘴技一樣。 (35'00)THE HOOP COLLECTIVE Shelburne認為 Embiid的幽默是因為他有些時候不能把話直說, 但又想說些什麼,所採取的發聲方式 這個舉動,也讓他想成為最強球員的野心看起來沒那麼明顯  ★★★ : "[Embiid] literally almost ran all our bigs out of the gym," Covington says. : "It was the first time I'd seen him, and for him to dominate like that, it was : like, 'Well, damn.'" : Covington:「他可以說幾乎是輾壓眾長人,那應該是我第一次看到他可以那樣制霸球場, : 當時我的心裡想的好像是那種『哇靠』」 (31:30)THE LOWE POST 她說Covington的後背包超酷的 是一隻栩栩如生的狼 (編按:沒圖沒真相) 因為這個,她才會和他搭話  ★★★ : "I think with everything, the main thing we have to do is just stay together, : because I feel like there's going to be some type of situation where people say : who is better between us three. And that's how it splits." : Embiid:「我會什麼都去想,最重要的是我們都能一直站在對方身旁,因為我覺得不免到時 : 會有那種到底我跟他之間誰比較優秀的問題出來,通常都是因為這樣而讓合作破局的。」 http://ift.tt/2yrpoE2 (28'50)THE LOWE POST "I saw what happened in Oklahoma City with (James) Harden, (Russell) Westbrook and (Kevin) Durant and I don't want that to happen here," Shelburne recalled Embiid saying. Shelburne轉述Embiid說過的話: 「我看過之前發生在雷霆身上的事(Harden & Westbrook & Durant解體) 不希望那樣的事發生在費城。」 (應該是指隊中一堆潛力股,好不容易長出來了,可是最終解體這件事)  ★★★ : "They have a role to play in each other's success," coach Brett Brown says. : "What interests me more than going out to dinner or being together off the : court all the time is respect on the court. And the respect is generated : because you look at somebody and know they care, know they work, know the team : is in their best interest." : 總教練Brett Brown:「他們彼此都要去扮演成就對方的角色。讓我比較感興趣的不是他們 : 一起去吃晚餐,或是休戰日的期間都一直膩在一起,而是他們怎麼樣在球場上尊重彼此。 : 而彼此尊重是可以型塑出來的,因為你可以看著某個人而知道他們在乎你,知道他們可以 : 合作,知道他們最重視的是整個球隊。」 : Brown spent 12 years working under Gregg Popovich in San Antonio, and he says : it took years for Tim Duncan, Manu Ginobili and Tony Parker, the core of the : Spurs dynasty, to find out how to play-- and win-- together. Popovich was : always the strongest voice in the room, Duncan led by example, Parker was the : beating heart, Ginobili was the conscience. Brown says he used to get emails : from Duncan at all hours of the night, musing on how to address an issue the : team needed to work on. : Brown過去12年曾在聖安東尼奧馬刺傳奇教練 Gregg Popovich 下工作,而他說對於馬刺三 : 劍客 Tim Duncan、Manu Ginobili和Tony Parker這三位馬刺核心來說,也是花了很幾年才 : 找到一起打球、一起贏球的秘訣- 就好像Popovich過去一定是講話最大聲、最有話語權的人 : 、Duncan則是以身作則的帶領大家、Parker是心臟而Ginobili則是的意識一樣。Brown說他 : 過去常常在夜晚一直收到 Duncan 的email,思考著怎麼敘述一個球隊需要改善的問題。 (30'20)THE HOOP COLLECTIVE 作者表示,Brett Brown喜歡跑步,每天都跑 (NBA洪中?) 不少人跑步的時候,會聽些歌 or podcast 但Brown跑步時,不這麼做,跑步是他思考的時候 他常常會在這個時候,思考要怎樣才能讓76人像馬刺隊一樣,全隊結合在一起  ★★★ : This year that's meant Brown and the Sixers have to bite their tongues when : Embiid criticizes the way they've handled situations with Fultz, whose : mysterious shoulder injury has kept him from any meaningful action, and former : lottery pick Jahlil Okafor, who was finally traded to the Nets on Dec. 7, more : than a month after requesting to leave. : 舉個例,今年Brown和76人球團就得咬牙面對Embiid批評他們對於Fultz的作法,這位新秀 : 詭異的肩傷讓他並沒有接受有效的處理,還有樂透簽選進來的前隊友 Jahlil Okafor,他也 : 終於向球隊喊出Trade me後,在12/7被交易到紐澤西籃網。 : "The whole thing with Markelle is messed up," Embiid says. "It should not have : happened. Obviously, it has something to do with his shoulder-- I saw that they : said it wasn't the shoulder, but I don't believe it. : Embiid:「整件對於Markelle的事情真的是亂搞,這根本不應該發生,很明顯的,他的肩膀 : 一定有問題,他們竟然說這跟他肩膀無關,但我根本不相信。」 (36'30)THE HOOP COLLECTIVE 關於Fultz的肩傷,作者透露, Fultz肩膀覺得痛 所以他之前沒辦法用原本的姿勢投籃 (37'40)THE HOOP COLLECTIVE Fultz也有把這件事告訴別人 (40'30)THE HOOP COLLECTIVE 而Embiid會開始欣賞富兒子是因為下面的故事 — 在接近選秀前,除了富兒子,沒人來76人的場館練球 這個時候, Embiid問了富兒子一個假設性問題:「如果你只剩下一個禮拜能活,你會幹嘛?」 富兒子:「我會來體育館打球,因為這是我能做的最好的事。」  ★★★ : In the end, trusting the process really means trusting Embiid. : 話講到頭,其實相信過程 = 相信 Embiid。 (40'40)THE HOOP COLLECTIVE 主持人: 就你的角度來看,我們現在在「The Process」的什麼階段? (Where are we in the process?) Ramona Shelburne說, Brett Brown相信他們會打進今年的季後賽 Shelburne覺得,76人全隊也是這麼認為的 不過這只是第一階段(Process 1) 季後賽是另一個球季, 到了那時候,又是另一個開始 並不是每一隊都能和之前的雷霆一樣 養成4個球星,打進總決賽 這是他們還需要努力的地方  ★★★ : Seven years ago, the man didn't speak English, let alone play basketball, and : now he's wickedly funny in another language and one of the most skilled big men : in the sport. He jokes that he learned English by listening to rap music and : how to shoot by "watching [videos] of white people." But clearly there's more : to it. : 7年前,這個傢伙一句英文都不會講,更不用談打籃球,現在卻可以這麼好笑的運用另一個 : 語言,還能搖身一變變成最有技巧的長人之一。他開玩笑地說他是聽饒舌樂學英文、和看 : 白人影片學會投籃的,但其實還遠不止這些。 (27'00)THE HOOP COLLECTIVE Embiid是高中才來美國的 那個時候因為還不大會說英文 女職員還稱他是無口男(Big Quiet)  ★★★ : Before the NBA draft, his first agent, Arn Tellem, hired a social media coach : for Embiid. At first, Embiid followed his instructions to post unassuming, : sports-focused updates. "But unfortunately I got hurt and I didn't have : anything to do," Embiid says. "I found social media was a way for me to open up : and show the world who I was and also keep my name out there." : 在NBA選秀前,他的第一個經紀人 Arn Tellem,聘請了一個社群媒體的指導給Embiid。起先 : 他遵行指導的只是去PO一些沒啥樂趣、但卻跟體育相關的文,Embiid:「很不幸的是我當時 : 在養傷,又沒其他事情可以做,我發現社群媒體是一個可以讓我打開大門,讓世界認識我 : 又讓大家知道我是誰的方式。」 (20'25)THE HOOP COLLECTIVE 她提到了社群媒體教練的指示: ☆po些日常生活的事 ☆別觸碰爭議話題 ☆別太常發文  ★★★ : "On social media, I can hide behind the computer or the iPhone," Embiid says. : "Internet courage." : Embiid:「在社交媒體上,我可以躲在電腦或是iPhone後面,我有所謂的網路勇氣」 (19'00)THE HOOP COLLECTIVE 她表示, 鉛筆Boy其實只有碰到「上場比賽」&「千年鍵盤」的時候才會醒來,變成引戰鄉民 其他時候, (X) 他都在沈睡中 (O) 就像普通人一樣,是個害羞 & 親切的人  ★★★ (27'30)THE HOOP COLLECTIVE 作者表示, 鉛筆Boy可以看了Olajuwon高光中的一個動作 然後隔天就在場上使用 這可不是常見的能力 (29'00)THE HOOP COLLECTIVE 作者認為,鉛筆Boy其實擁有成為當家球星的一切要素 現在的問題只是他能不能帶領球隊,更上一層樓 (40'00)THE HOOP COLLECTIVE 以及讓自己的比賽更進化 -- 另外關於這一篇文章 ─ #1QCD_1LQ (NBA) [ptt.cc] [花邊] Embiid的幾則外電 Joel Embiid: Sam Hinkie 'Lost His Job Because of Me' http://ift.tt/2C0A9iK Embiid說76人前總經理Hinkie是因為他生涯前兩季因傷缺賽, 才被辭退的 在下面這個節目中, 有八卦一下Sam Hinkie為何辭職 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JET8nC4zQbc

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THE HOOP COLLECTIVE "Trusting the Sixers"(2017/12/13) https://twitter.com/NoahCoslov/status/940710380527144961?s=17 Noah Coslov @NoahCoslov · 12月13日 From Jackie Mac on Hoop Collective: "someone close to Hinkie & Sixers told me once that a tipping point for the owner to fire Hinkie was his kids were getting teased at school about The Process." 來賓Jackie MacMullan說, (以下為廣播中的原話(38'43開始),不是直接翻譯上面的推特內容) 根據一位和76人 & Sam Hinkie十分親近的人士表示, 76人老闆的小孩們在學校被同學拿76人的「The Process」當梗嘲笑, 是讓Sam Hinkie最終被炒魷魚的其中一個原因, 但這件事是不是最後一根稻草,她就不知道了 後來節目就開始討論 有沒有被(O)嘲笑(X)霸凌的經驗了 XD -- Sloan, on his team: "I tell them to win every game. Sometimes they don't listen." -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 1.163.85.103 ※ 文章網址: http://ift.tt/2AIolW8

Magdalen : 推 12/14 13:21

djviva : 期待Embiid成為我們這年代最棒的球星!! #永遠健康 12/14 13:22

a19951218 : 重點是他目前打的出來 打不出來就變成單純嘴砲了 12/14 13:27

jokethelife : 他真的很有魅力 12/14 13:31

andy82116 : 千年鍵盤 12/14 13:32

e920528 : 推 12/14 13:40

cidcheng : 很想看他健健康康的變成神獸,他很討人喜歡 12/14 13:41

greatkevin : 推 12/14 13:42

s891234 : 推推特王!!! 12/14 13:52

jonestem : 推,好文 12/14 13:54

Altair : 超棒的補充文 12/14 14:13

e2167471 : 推 12/14 14:45

hsuhuche : 推補充。 12/14 14:55

Olajuwon : 千年推特王 12/14 15:29

CycleEnergy : 沒有鍵盤跟籃球就只是個羞赧憨大個 12/14 16:03

iamaq18c : 推推 12/14 16:14

yuiop358 : 社群媒體教練是什麼鬼 12/14 16:24

js0431 : 籃球最強的鄉民 12/14 18:32



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